Oneil on April 19, 2012, 03:50:03 am
Securing Svetlana in the "Russian Habitat" presumes she will be nice and sit there while they go about there business.  All she need do in the Russian module is effect something that will alter the Telemetry signals of the automated BITs system, and await a overflight of Russian ground stations for them to contact her to verify it.

Unlike NASA, The Russian Federal Space Agency has plans for reusing portions of the ISS for the planned OPSEK and will likely fight to preserve it.

myrkul999 on April 19, 2012, 04:36:08 am
Unlike NASA, The Russian Federal Space Agency has plans for reusing portions of the ISS for the planned OPSEK and will likely fight to preserve it.

For that matter, wouldn't surprise me one bit that the Russian module had some off-the-books comms gear, "just in case". Paranoia is a lesson they have learned very well. Of course, whe know the plan (ultimately) succeeds, but it would be an interesting monkey wrench.
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TMIAHM on April 20, 2012, 12:35:00 am
We found out you can't trust a commie!  ;D

For a genious, he sure doesn't have much common knowledge!  :P

myrkul999 on April 20, 2012, 02:04:49 am
Nailed it.

dough560 on April 20, 2012, 07:48:51 am
Yep, An educated idiot.  All the book learning in the world, no common sense.

The conditions ought to be interesting.  Hopefully not in the Chinese sense.

Murphy is alive, well and settling in for the long haul.

Andreas on April 20, 2012, 04:13:01 pm
The Russians are taking it very well, though.
What could they want? A Gazprom pipeline to Mars, maybe  :P  ::)
Of course, it could be that they realize that they won't be able to beat our guys to it, and simply want to be allowed to set up a Bus line.
After all, they know they can't ask for something prohibitive, and still they want to profit from being the only power to know of this.

customdesigned on April 20, 2012, 04:26:50 pm
The Russians are taking it very well, though.
...
After all, they know they can't ask for something prohibitive, and still they want to profit from being the only power to know of this.

It's amazing how much more benign the profit motive is than the ideology motive.

dough560 on April 20, 2012, 05:30:30 pm
With Profit , there's plenty of spillover for by standers.  Ideology, its one way or the highway.  No room for bystanders.

Andreas on April 21, 2012, 09:53:30 am
The Russians aren't Soviets anymore. They've given up the pretense that there is equality. It is now the fact that the Kremlin, the power elite, defines Russia, and the general populace place their nationalist pride (which also fueled the Soviet Union) in how powerful "their" elite is. Profit is their greatest lever of influence, like in how Gazprom deals with the former vassal states. They deal. They do Biznez. They profit.

sams on April 25, 2012, 01:11:41 pm
Maybe it is a bluff no ?

Andreas on April 26, 2012, 06:06:22 am
Maybe it is a bluff no ?
Someone got word out somehow, that's for sure.
Of course, this voids the agreement with Russia, most likely...

myrkul999 on April 26, 2012, 12:17:59 pm
Maybe it is a bluff no ?
Someone got word out somehow, that's for sure.
Of course, this voids the agreement with Russia, most likely...

I'm going to make a prediction for Friday's - possibly Monday's comic: "The Russian Federation has announced that they are turning the ISS into a colony ship, sending the first manned mission to Mars."

They know spin. It's even possible they leaked the story in the first place,  as the best way to make themselves look good in the international community, and prevent a covert battle over the station - protecting their investment, so to speak.

sams on April 26, 2012, 02:57:54 pm
Maybe it is a bluff no ?
Someone got word out somehow, that's for sure.
Of course, this voids the agreement with Russia, most likely...

I'm going to make a prediction for Friday's - possibly Monday's comic: "The Russian Federation has announced that they are turning the ISS into a colony ship, sending the first manned mission to Mars."

They know spin. It's even possible they leaked the story in the first place,  as the best way to make themselves look good in the international community, and prevent a covert battle over the station - protecting their investment, so to speak.

This plan makes so much sense  ;)

They protect their investment, get to claim to mars and look good.  ;D

dough560 on April 29, 2012, 04:10:45 am
I don't think the Russians will make a statement at this point.  The leak is immaterial now.  What matters is the "Pirates" first statement.  Will it catch the imagination of the populace and cause the governments to accordingly tread carefully?

Apollo-Soyuz on April 30, 2012, 08:38:54 am
I'm going to make a prediction for Friday's - possibly Monday's comic: "The Russian Federation has announced that they are turning the ISS into a colony ship, sending the first manned mission to Mars."

They know spin. It's even possible they leaked the story in the first place,  as the best way to make themselves look good in the international community, and prevent a covert battle over the station - protecting their investment, so to speak.

Agreed, the Russians seem to own the space station, so they should have the diplomatic muscle to allow the escape from terra to happen. 

I suspect the "leak" might have been a non-secure radio broadcast from Svetlana or something, rather than than something deliberate from the Russians.

In any event, once the ISS is away, the Russians leverage drops down to almost nothing. They could even toss Svetlana out the airlock if she becomes too irksome, though I imagine that would be the very last resort. Every member on the team is a resource, and also a significant asset to the genetic diversity.