Apollo-Soyuz on October 12, 2011, 07:54:06 pm
Thankfully, we have the urban dictionary here on the 'net.

I wonder what they call the in-call ladies in the French-speaking area of Canada?

Apollo-Soyuz on October 12, 2011, 07:58:25 pm
hmm, you need to spell it "PUTAIN" for google translator's sake.

eudict.com/?lang=freeng&word=poutain
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Sio on October 13, 2011, 08:58:42 am
Putain = whore.  Poutine = gravy fries with cheese curds.

Both can be interesting under the right circumstances, but hardly interchangeable.

I have some news for Guy's brother.  The CHALLENGED gets to choose the weapons in a duel.  Not the challenger. I hope Nappy is as good with a pistol as he is with that ceremonial sword.  He's going to have a really rude awakening when the fellow's second comes to call and informs him that the duel's weapons will be 20th century slugthrower pistols.

Apollo-Soyuz on October 13, 2011, 11:01:57 am
Putain = whore.  Poutine = gravy fries with cheese curds.

As linked, I found multiple references both ways, though I'll admit to knowing only of the greasy spoon dish myself. Anyway, spelling is different today. Maybe we're just proofing the dead-tree edition.

SandySandfort on October 13, 2011, 12:53:00 pm
Putain = whore.  Poutine = gravy fries with cheese curds.

As linked, I found multiple references both ways, though I'll admit to knowing only of the greasy spoon dish myself. Anyway, spelling is different today. Maybe we're just proofing the dead-tree edition.

It was spelled correctly elsewhere in the strip. I just missed it.

Gillsing on October 14, 2011, 06:30:26 am
And now Guy wants to 'stop the foolishness'? I guess warning Pierre of the sailors in space just wouldn't have been funny enough for Guy. ::)
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NeitherRuleNorBeRuled on October 14, 2011, 08:33:40 am
And now Guy wants to 'stop the foolishness'? I guess warning Pierre of the sailors in space just wouldn't have been funny enough for Guy. ::)

Well, it wasn't directly addressed in any one strip; however, I got the distinct impression that Guy was trying to warn Pierre about that, but Pierre wasn't going to listen (he isn't the type to listen, in any case).

A couple of things do surprise me, however, about the way this is going:

  • How "politically incorrect" Pierre is being, given his thorough indoctrination in UW social thought.  I would have expected the UW to have insisted that the gay and lesbian community be treated with kid gloves; this would be especially true for someone who had achieved some level of success in the UW bureaucracy, as Pierre seems to have done.
  • That Pierre was "touched" -- without invitation.  This seems to be an, albeit relatively small, violation of ZAP.  It doesn't seem to fit with the heterosexual approach we've seen so far.  Perhaps it will be revealed that Pierre inadvertently gave generally understood (to the regular clientele of the bar, anyway) "wide stance"-type signals, and the "sailor" simply misinterpreted them.


SandySandfort on October 14, 2011, 09:15:18 am
And now Guy wants to 'stop the foolishness'? I guess warning Pierre of the sailors in space just wouldn't have been funny enough for Guy. ::)

Well, it wasn't directly addressed in any one strip; however, I got the distinct impression that Guy was trying to warn Pierre about that, but Pierre wasn't going to listen (he isn't the type to listen, in any case).

A couple of things do surprise me, however, about the way this is going:

  • How "politically incorrect" Pierre is being, given his thorough indoctrination in UW social thought.  I would have expected the UW to have insisted that the gay and lesbian community be treated with kid gloves; this would be especially true for someone who had achieved some level of success in the UW bureaucracy, as Pierre seems to have done.

Two answers: (1) Cocky little bastards who are insecure about their masculinity often become bullies and homophobes. Just because they are indoctrinated, does not mean they will "play nice" when freed from outside constraints. (2) He is part of the nomenklatura. As such, he does not really believe the rules for everyone else, apply to him. Remember the manager in the first arc of EFT? She set her air conditioner temperature well below the legally mandated minimum. RHIP.

  • That Pierre was "touched" -- without invitation.  This seems to be an, albeit relatively small, violation of ZAP.  It doesn't seem to fit with the heterosexual approach we've seen so far.  Perhaps it will be revealed that Pierre inadvertently gave generally understood (to the regular clientele of the bar, anyway) "wide stance"-type signals, and the "sailor" simply misinterpreted them.

Counsel, you are assuming facts not in evidence. (Wait for it.)

Big.Swede on October 14, 2011, 05:25:40 pm
That old saying "He who brings a knife to a gunfight" might come in handy here, but with a slight change. "He who brings a ceremonial sword to a gunfight". The operative word being "ceremonial".

Most of those kinds of swords are purely for show, and while it might stand up to being waved around quite a bit, when it comes down to it, they will fold like a Swiss army knife but be nowhere near as usefull. So i can see Nappy going "Hahah!" and lunging, only to pull back something that looks like a 3D rendition of an alpine road.
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quadibloc on October 16, 2011, 09:49:26 am
That old saying "He who brings a knife to a gunfight" might come in handy here, but with a slight change. "He who brings a ceremonial sword to a gunfight". The operative word being "ceremonial".
I did think that it is not the challenger who gets to make the choice of weapons in a duel... (Ah, I see someone else noted that.)

And now Guy wants to 'stop the foolishness'? I guess warning Pierre of the sailors in space just wouldn't have been funny enough for Guy. ::)
I think you're quite correct; it was clear that Guy had the opportunity to avert a dangerous situation in strip 800.
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wdg3rd on October 16, 2011, 04:47:26 pm
And now Guy wants to 'stop the foolishness'? I guess warning Pierre of the sailors in space just wouldn't have been funny enough for Guy. ::)
I think you're quite correct; it was clear that Guy had the opportunity to avert a dangerous situation in strip 800.

One gets the impression that Guy is not overly fond of his cousin, and seeing him embarrassed is within reason.  Recall the bar the snitches were sent to in a couple of the "Police Academy" movies.

But he isn't really that enthusiastic about seeing his cousin killed -- he'd probably have to break the news to the rest of the family and that can be tedious even when little real love is involved.
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Apollo-Soyuz on October 17, 2011, 12:39:59 pm
it was clear that Guy had the opportunity to avert a dangerous situation in strip 800.

Maybe things have changed, but I don't consider gay bars to be a particularity dangerous place to go.

sam on October 17, 2011, 04:25:46 pm
Two answers: (1) Cocky little bastards who are insecure about their masculinity often become bullies and homophobes. Just because they are indoctrinated, does not mean they will "play nice" when freed from outside constraints. (2) He is part of the nomenklatura. As such, he does not really believe the rules for everyone else, apply to him. Remember the manager in the first arc of EFT? She set her air conditioner temperature well below the legally mandated minimum. RHIP.

And similarly, consider all the grotesquely racist attacks on Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas,



and the grotesquely homophobic attacks on "300".  I am the first to say that gays tend to be filthy, treacherous, cowardly spread disease, and will not pay their debts, but it would never occur to me that men that work on their muscles and walk around wearing very little are gay.



Sieggy on October 17, 2011, 08:49:55 pm
That old saying "He who brings a knife to a gunfight" might come in handy here, but with a slight change. "He who brings a ceremonial sword to a gunfight". The operative word being "ceremonial".

Most of those kinds of swords are purely for show, and while it might stand up to being waved around quite a bit, when it comes down to it, they will fold like a Swiss army knife but be nowhere near as usefull. So i can see Nappy going "Hahah!" and lunging, only to pull back something that looks like a 3D rendition of an alpine road.
Actually, it's more along the lines of 'break like a pretzel'. The overwhelming majority of wall hangers and 'ceremonial' swords are made of stainless steel. They hold an edge great (though such blades are never edged because of liability reasons), but at the first parry, >snap<.  I study sword with ARMA (www.thearma.org). and my swords are all forged steel. I've broken probably a dozen blades belonging to wannabees who think that the $50 piece o' crap they bought at the mall makes them Conan or a samurai. Pierre has no idea that his cherished weapon is about as dangerous as a butter knife . . . and almost as sharp.

dough560 on October 18, 2011, 09:58:46 am
I agree with Apollo.  As long as people mind their manners, one bar is no more dangerous than another.  When people don't mind their manners (or what passes as manners in the particular establishment).  Things can get interesting very quickly.

I used to do bar checks on the weekends.  The city I worked in at the time had a red light district on one block and gay establishments on another block.  The guy's bars were on one side of the street.  The girl's bars were on the other.  The bar checks usually involved walking in, getting a drink and grabbing a seat where I could watch the crowd.  If I couldn't ID any GIs, I'd move on to the next bar on my list.  In one bar, I was approached by a guy dressed like the Cowboy in the Village People.  He told me I was going home with him.  I looked him up and down, shook my head and told him, he had nothing I was interested in.  He told me he didn't care what I was interested in, I was going home with him.  He then grabbed something I objected to.  I pressed a couple of pressure points causing him to loose the use of his arm.   While he was trying to figure out what happened, I started a wall to wall counseling session.  After the the third wall, I directed him toward the fourth.  Unfortunately I forgot abut the entry door to the bar.  Another customer was coming in and Cowboy cleared the door and landing, bouncing down the steps, into the street.  I started down the steps.  Cowboy got up and ran down the street.   I went back into the bar, intending to pay for my drink and then check in with my supervisor.  When I got to the bar, there was a fresh drink waiting for me.  Before I could ask what was going on, the bartender told me my money was no good and I was welcome anytime.  He then explained "Cowboy" was notorious for aggression, rough sex and rape.  No one wanted anything to do with him.  By this time quite a few of the patrons were telling me just how welcome I was.
     A few minutes later, Cowboy showed up with the local police.  The senior man took one look at me, shook his head and asked what I was up to this time.  (He was my contact with the local police station.)  I explained the situation.  Mr. Policeman looked at Cowboy, pointed at me and identified me as an American Police Detective.  Cowboy went white and the nice policeman escorted him out of the bar. holding an ear and warming up his nightstick.  (They don't have use of force laws.)  I was asked to stop by the station, when it would be convenient.  It was convenient after I finished my bar checks and met up with my female partner who had been working her side of the street.
     By the time we got to the local station, I'd filled my partner in on the incident.  We met with my contact and he asked me if I would have any trouble over the incident.  When I answered probably.  I was told, "No You Won't."  Cowboy was brought in and read the riot act.  My contact explained Cowboy would be spending the next several years, alone in a 2.5 meter by 3 meter box with a 40 watt light bulb for company.  Said light bulb would be behind a glass brick in the ceiling.  Under local law, my response to his assault was legal.  (I would have only had trouble with the military.)  Cowboy was very grateful.  He was out of there like shot.  My partner and I reported in and I informed  my supervisor of the incident.  He also thought it was funny.
     That bar became one of my favorite "chill" spots when I wanted to get away from everything.  Everybody knew I was straight, wasn't interested in experimenting and just wanted some piece and quiet.  No hassles.  No problems.  When ever I came in and Cowboy was there, he got up and left.  Over the years, people gave me all kinds of tips.  Some, I used.  he rest I gave to the locals