sam on April 24, 2011, 03:32:35 am
One aggregation of available U.S. information (see http://tinyurl.com/2ylwsl, published 2005) states that the then-prevailing median age at first intercourse was 16.9 years for males and 17.4 years for females

It does not seem at all plausible that age of first intercourse was older for females than males.

Claimed age of first intercourse might be older, given that actual age was usually illegal.


Holt on April 24, 2011, 06:58:41 am
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Tucci78: At the outset, I'd like to recommend that non-Americans bear in mind the fact that the term "progressive" has over the past century become in these United States yet another synonym for "authoritarian," and really should never be used when the intention is to characterize a political, social, or economic disposition toward maximal individual autonomy in any aspect of human action.

Actually, it's come to mean "socialist." Originally they called themselves "socialists" in the 30's. That became a bad name, so they switched to "progressive." That turned sour after a time, so they switched to "liberal," which has become a synonym for "socialist" again. They're back to "progressive," now. Hillary Clinton describes herself as a "Progressive."

Bloody yanks. There is a reason the rest of the world just shakes its head at your internal politics.

quadibloc on April 24, 2011, 07:23:25 am
Bloody yanks. There is a reason the rest of the world just shakes its head at your internal politics.
The word "progressive" has many meanings.

Thus, in Canada, the federal Conservative party was for many years the Progressive Conservative Party, in an attempt to convince Canadians that they weren't hopelessly reactionary stuck-in-the-mud quasi-Luddites.

In the United States, the word "progressive" has a specific historical meaning, as referencing the LaFollette Progressives.

But it acquired other meanings as well, and not due to it being misused by any mainstream American source. The Communist Party and its supporters used the term "progressive" to refer to those who, basically, did not regard the U. S. S. R. as a threat to American liberty. That euphemistic use can reasonably be expected to turn it into a curseword.

J Thomas on April 24, 2011, 07:53:18 am
notwithstanding this world wide law, girls usually start having sex at eleven to fourteen,

Do you really believe girls "usually start having sex" between 11 and 14?

This is Sam you're talking to.

Aardvark on April 24, 2011, 08:10:11 am
Socialist/Social Democratic/Liberal/Progressive/Democrat: it's all the same thing, now, whatever they call themselves. It's become obvious that the last conservative Democrats are gone and the moderate Democrats are almost gone. The Democrats vote as a unified socialist bloc, with the occasional few unnecessary votes split off for cover.

No kidding, that is the unvarnished state of the US Democratic party as it exists today. This business of rotating names has always been about creating a plausible euphemism for something less palatable, and the mainstream media, who are 90+ Democratic, are only more than willing to cover for them, especially lately. I have the impression that they are expending their last bit of credibility so they can finish the job before the nation can recover its senses.

Could the UW be the product of the Democratic vision joined with the rest of a socialist/totalitarian nightmare world? It's possible. The UW doesn't seem to be quite as bad as it could be. I would have thought, with the high-tech tools at their disposal, the UW would consolidated their power better, but who knows, there could be a revolution at the end of this trip.  

qoheleth on April 24, 2011, 08:12:45 am
I knew pointing ALL of the cameras at the hotel was a mistake.

You got to it before I did.  I was wondering why "all those cameras" didn't pick up the exchange between Ted and Rhonda.

Aardvark on April 24, 2011, 08:25:45 am
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Bloody yanks. There is a reason the rest of the world just shakes its head at your internal politics.

Bloody Eunics: the worlds' most destructive and insane philosophies come from there: Communism, Fascism, and Post-modernism. :)


GlennWatson on April 24, 2011, 08:48:32 am
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Bloody yanks. There is a reason the rest of the world just shakes its head at your internal politics.

Bloody Eunics: the worlds' most destructive and insane philosophies come from there: Communism, Fascism, and Post-modernism. :)



I agree.  The very idea that Europe after WWI and WWI somehow feels superior to the United States of America in the political or any other realm is laughable.  Let them giggle if they like.

mellyrn on April 24, 2011, 08:55:36 am
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It does not seem at all plausible that age of first intercourse was older for females than males.

How odd.

Holt on April 24, 2011, 08:58:14 am
Socialist/Social Democratic/Liberal/Progressive/Democrat: it's all the same thing, now, whatever they call themselves. It's become obvious that the last conservative Democrats are gone and the moderate Democrats are almost gone. The Democrats vote as a unified socialist bloc, with the occasional few unnecessary votes split off for cover.

No kidding, that is the unvarnished state of the US Democratic party as it exists today. This business of rotating names has always been about creating a plausible euphemism for something less palatable, and the mainstream media, who are 90+ Democratic, are only more than willing to cover for them, especially lately. I have the impression that they are expending their last bit of credibility so they can finish the job before the nation can recover its senses.

Could the UW be the product of the Democratic vision joined with the rest of a socialist/totalitarian nightmare world? It's possible. The UW doesn't seem to be quite as bad as it could be. I would have thought, with the high-tech tools at their disposal, the UW would consolidated their power better, but who knows, there could be a revolution at the end of this trip.  

Could certainly be a product of the USA. Unlikely to be a product of European social democracies though. They demand accountability far too often.
Remember Americans work on a different (and incorrect) political scale in comparison to the rest of the world.

Bloody Eunics: the worlds' most destructive and insane philosophies come from there: Communism, Fascism, and Post-modernism. :)
I agree.  The very idea that Europe after WWI and WWI somehow feels superior to the United States of America in the political or any other realm is laughable.  Let them giggle if they like.

Well communism is closer to anarchy than most others. A classless society where all work for the benefit of everyone with no leaders, etc? Yeah fairly close to anarchy just without that self centered slant you all love. Remember Americans have a big blind spot in regards to Communism in that they are incapable of discerning between Stalinism, Socialist tendencies and Communism. Therefore their opinions on the subject are irrelevant.

Fascism? The idea that we are stronger together than we are apart. A philosophy that the whole must come before the individual and promotes civic minded ways of thinking. Mind you Fascists tend to be too nationalist or just plain balls crazy. The fundamental concept of "We're stronger together than alone" is true though.

Post modernists? Well they do raise good points. Few things are absolute. Mind you this doesn't fit into your world view and as such you reject it.

J Thomas on April 24, 2011, 09:02:11 am
Socialist/Social Democratic/Liberal/Progressive/Democrat: it's all the same thing, now, whatever they call themselves. It's become obvious that the last conservative Democrats are gone and the moderate Democrats are almost gone.

And the Republicans are about the same.

If you don't want a nanny-state watching over you, you vote Republican and you get it anyway.

If you don't want the government to do lots and lots of crony capitalism then you vote Democrat and you get that anyway too.

If you don't like either one you can go Tea Party and what's the chance it won't be more big government crony capitalism? They have the bases covered.

Holt on April 24, 2011, 09:13:00 am
Socialist/Social Democratic/Liberal/Progressive/Democrat: it's all the same thing, now, whatever they call themselves. It's become obvious that the last conservative Democrats are gone and the moderate Democrats are almost gone.

And the Republicans are about the same.

If you don't want a nanny-state watching over you, you vote Republican and you get it anyway.

If you don't want the government to do lots and lots of crony capitalism then you vote Democrat and you get that anyway too.

If you don't like either one you can go Tea Party and what's the chance it won't be more big government crony capitalism? They have the bases covered.



Psssst. The American system is a total sham. You're living in a dolled up corporate feudal state

Aardvark on April 24, 2011, 09:51:59 am
Leaving aside Commissar Holt for the moment, who I am reasonably certain is a troll, although sometimes an entertaining one, I went back and looked at the monitors in Guy's office on page 638. It looks like at least two, maybe three cameras were covering the area by the fountain where Ed, Chang, and Rhonda were having their conversation. There are also cameras mounted on poles that seem to be pointed their way in some of the recent pages.

I don't know about sound, but I'd say there's a very good chance that Rhonda's plans aren't going to go down as she expects.
 

J Thomas on April 24, 2011, 09:57:05 am
They have the bases covered.

Psssst. The American system is a total sham. You're living in a dolled up corporate feudal state

Sure, and we don't like it one little bit. We have a tradition of freedom, that didn't really slip away until the frontier was gone.

Right now most Americans refuse to admit the situation. But when we do, watch out! We will get a big surge of votes for the Tea Party and then the new Tea Party Congress and Tea Party President will make sweeping cosmetic changes.

Holt on April 24, 2011, 10:02:39 am
They have the bases covered.

Psssst. The American system is a total sham. You're living in a dolled up corporate feudal state

Sure, and we don't like it one little bit. We have a tradition of freedom, that didn't really slip away until the frontier was gone.

Right now most Americans refuse to admit the situation. But when we do, watch out! We will get a big surge of votes for the Tea Party and then the new Tea Party Congress and Tea Party President will make sweeping cosmetic changes.


Psssst you don't have a tradition of freedom. it was a sham concocted by rich white landowners who were angry they couldn't control parliament like the rich white land owners in Britain. Also the tea party is also a scam cooked up to ensure the disgruntled elements don't upset the system.

The entire thing is just as planned.