spudit on March 17, 2011, 09:19:13 pm
HIPPA is a set of medical privacy rules, who gets to know what.

I don't see the problem myself, though maybe it's the woman's picture on the wall?
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quadibloc on March 17, 2011, 09:45:37 pm
What wouldn't be on the menu:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_daily_ration

not just no pork, no meat at all. The wet nap is alcohol free.

Vegetable shortening.

The red pepper and black pepper are in a separate bag, I assume this is acceptable to the Adventists, as they consider these stimulants.

They've even changed the color of the package so they no longer match unexploded cluster bombs.
But they include peanut butter in them! What were they thinking?

Or are nut allergies only endemic in the United States?

spudit on March 17, 2011, 10:32:40 pm
Sure, just like high cholesteral is an artifact of cholesteral testing. Personally I believe it is just arterial Fix-a-Flat. Back in the olde days we ate greasy crap and lived to tell about it. Twas a manly time.

Spudit, leaded gas era survivor.
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Apollo-Soyuz on March 18, 2011, 05:12:09 am
I have no idea what HIPPA means.

US-centric joke. Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. This law has mandates some pretty reasonable privacy requirements in regards to your private doctor-patent-insurance-company records.

So carelessly leaving another patent's records up on a view screen while consulting with your next patient is not only an unethical lapse, it's illegal.

mellyrn on March 18, 2011, 06:57:28 am
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I have no idea what HIPPA means.

You are a blessed man.

It's a USSA healthcare regulation that allows (possibly requires, I don't know) my doctor to tell lackeys in my gov't, my insurance company, my bank and/or my credit card company anything they want to know about my condition & treatment, but forbids said doctor to tell my spouse.



Chez Treif maybe puts real human blood in the Bloody Marys?  How about long pork obtained from amputations?

Plane on March 18, 2011, 09:55:15 am
  French cuisine except for the French, Korean food unless you are Korean, Phillipino menu for the hard core, unless you are Phillipino.

   When a group of French , Korean,Phillipinos walk in they can break out the Scandinavian recipies and serve Ludefisk.

  By the way is sea food hard to get out "in the belt"? I don't suppose that ocean environments are easy to simulate for raising sea food.

spudit on March 18, 2011, 10:20:37 am
Rumor has had it fish can live in absolutely saturated air in a zero G environment. Dunno for sure. Cares has lots of ice so lots of water anyway.
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SandySandfort on March 18, 2011, 10:29:32 am
By the way is sea food hard to get out "in the belt"? I don't suppose that ocean environments are easy to simulate for raising sea food.

http://www.fishfarming.eu/en/home.html

quadibloc on March 18, 2011, 07:01:34 pm
By the way is sea food hard to get out "in the belt"? I don't suppose that ocean environments are easy to simulate for raising sea food.

http://www.fishfarming.eu/en/home.html
Thanks for the information. I would have guessed that fish would be relatively easy to farm in space, being perhaps the next source of animal protein after chicken.

It's finding space for beef cattle that's awkward. Not, I presume, insuperably so, if you have the space for a large human population, but presumably it will be expensive and will come along rather later in the settlement of any part of space. Because, in space, space isn't free. At least not if you need air with it.

SandySandfort on March 18, 2011, 07:13:40 pm
http://www.fishfarming.eu/en/home.html

Thanks for the information. I would have guessed that fish would be relatively easy to farm in space, being perhaps the next source of animal protein after chicken.

I think you are right. While fish are not gravity agnostic, they probably will only need micro-gravity to prosper.

It's finding space for beef cattle that's awkward. Not, I presume, insuperably so, if you have the space for a large human population, but presumably it will be expensive and will come along rather later in the settlement of any part of space. Because, in space, space isn't free. At least not if you need air with it.

Kine (archaic plural for cow) are slightly addressed in a future strip. ("Hello, cow.")

spudit on March 19, 2011, 02:03:05 am
Fish farming is a big deal hereabouts. Seeded shellfish and in some places salmon in huge cages, floating feedlots. A plume of waste drifts downward, it attracts parasites and sometimes the atlantic salmon get loose and give the pacific salmon cooties. People get passionate about fish farms, that is go nuts, with friends don't let friends buy farmed fish bumper stickers, on up to fist fights and worse.

Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull is or used to be a fish farmer in his spare time.

I hope you folks have read Gerard K. O'Neil's The High Frontier, Heppenhiemer's Colonies in Space and Stine's The Third Industrial Revolution. Classics of speculative real science from the 70s when it looked like the Shuttle might be the real deal.

The first 2 especially talk about actually living at L4 or L5 or way up there somewhere. Actually living, and farming, eating, drinking, peeing and pooping in space with tech just slightly advanced from the pre VCR dark ages.

Look in the library, remember the library, sorta like a great big paper internet without the porn.  

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macsnafu on March 21, 2011, 11:41:53 am

This could create a "celebrity flesh" fad. One could eat a "Brad Burger" for example. (Put me down for some Angelina barbecued ribs. Yum!) Or, you could eat yourself or a loved one.  The possibilities are endless.

I'm not sure I'd want Angelina ribs--not much meat on them bones.  Now, Rosie O'Donnell ribs would be something else...
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quadibloc on March 21, 2011, 09:59:39 pm
Look in the library, remember the library, sorta like a great big paper internet without the porn.
Hey, the library is still way better than the Internet in some ways! It may not have as much content, but a lot of that content is premium-quality copyrighted content that you would have to pay for on the Internet.

spudit on March 21, 2011, 10:42:44 pm
but without the porn.
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Apollo-Soyuz on March 22, 2011, 07:02:23 am
Fish farming is a big deal hereabouts. Seeded shellfish and in some places salmon in huge cages, floating feedlots. A plume of waste drifts downward, it attracts parasites and sometimes the atlantic salmon get loose and give the pacific salmon cooties. People get passionate about fish farms, that is go nuts, with friends don't let friends buy farmed fish bumper stickers, on up to fist fights and worse.

Fish farming on Ceres would have none of these issues, unless of course the farming was done all under the frozen ice in Ceres' oceans (not likely, I can't see there being any dissolved O2).

You would have to create the entire environment and stock it with critters. You would have to deal with the waste instead of letting the tide take it out to sea. You would still have the right to shoot seals and sea lions that got into your tank, but the odds of that happening should be astronomically long.

Food conversion ratio is far better in fish then swine, and since the infrastructure shouldn't be that more expensive (low-G should make building tanks cheap, water is abundant and easy to get, no need to locate in a polar sunlight tower, etc), I'd have to guess that deep fried tilapia would be significantly cheaper than a pork chop, as long as the pork chop wasn't grown in a vat.

In fact, seeing as there is so much water on Ceres, I'd have to guess that aquaculture would be a big export.

 

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