Sean Roach on February 19, 2010, 06:56:23 pm
I just noticed the "Hotel Mandala" appears to have 4 lobes, set 90 degrees apart.  The text says 3 lobes.

A minor nitpick, and it took me almost 24 hours to notice, so perhaps a pointless one.
Probably a pointless one.

SandySandfort on February 19, 2010, 08:34:05 pm
I just noticed the "Hotel Mandala" appears to have 4 lobes, set 90 degrees apart.  The text says 3 lobes.

A minor nitpick, and it took me almost 24 hours to notice, so perhaps a pointless one.
Probably a pointless one.

I wrote three, but got four.  Do-do happens.

Nice pickup, Sean.

wdg3rd on February 20, 2010, 08:27:40 am
Give him a No-Prize.  (I know Stan Lee invented the award back when he and Jack Kirby were most of Marvel, did he trademark the term?)

Awarded anytime a letter-writer pointed an inconsistency between character history, costume detail, handedness & cet from previous eposides to the most recent at time of publication.  (Mail from fans to creators took a bit longer then, and responses [in the next issue to be sent to the printer] took a lot longer)..  So if somebody picks a nit, at least pretend you have to think about it for a while before you get back to them.  Instant gratification is in some ways a negative thing.

Recall that I was the first (Hail Eris) but by no means the last to think you and Scott might be altering storyline (a la Pogo) based on recent news.  It will happen again (though not from me -- at the time I hadn't realized all of the factors).  Your lead time isn't quite as long as it was for Lee and Kirby (or Lee and Ditko), but there is one, and feedback between artist and writer can sometimes be longer if one isn't looking over the shoulder of the other and "It looks great!  Oh, crap, there was that one little detail".

Inconstincies do not break art.  I was a Heinlein fan before it was cool.  Mind you, if folks in that hotel stand up too fast, they may experience a bit of vertigo when the fluids in their heads are subject to less Coriolis force than just before.  Centripetal inertia is no more forgiving than gravity, even when it temporarily feels the same (birds in orbital habitats intending to crap on cars will need a whole new set of instincts, as will everybody in the beisbol stadium).
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SandySandfort on February 20, 2010, 09:06:44 am
...So if somebody picks a nit, at least pretend you have to think about it for a while before you get back to them.  Instant gratification is in some ways a negative thing.

I prefer to give credit were credit is do. It helps both the creators and the readers to pay attention. For what it's worth, we can make changes after the strip goes on line. I have asked Scott to alter the copy to say 'four' lobes instead of 'three.' I originally wrote 'three' but WTF. One's as good as another.

Recall that I was the first (Hail Eris) but by no means the last to think you and Scott might be altering storyline (a la Pogo) based on recent news.  It will happen again (though not from me -- at the time I hadn't realized all of the factors).  Your lead time isn't quite as long as it was for Lee and Kirby (or Lee and Ditko), but there is one, and feedback between artist and writer can sometimes be longer if one isn't looking over the shoulder of the other and "It looks great!  Oh, crap, there was that one little detail".

We do like to get it right, though, so some "looking over shoulders" is a part of every collaboration. Our lead time is usually months, though, only weeks sometimes. So if I were to write something in response to world events, it would take a while before you saw it.

Mind you, if folks in that hotel stand up too fast, they may experience a bit of vertigo when the fluids in their heads are subject to less Coriolis force than just before. 

When I did the math, I gave the Coriolis effect some thought. At 3 RPM and over the very small change in distance from the center of rotation, I doubt it would be very noticeable. Perhaps not noticeable at all.

Sean Roach on February 20, 2010, 10:33:26 am
I'd guess about as noticeable as the movement of the deck of a large ship at sea.  Subtly wrong.
Probably more problematic in the inner rings, where the percentage difference between head height, and solar plexus height, (about head height while seated,) would be greater.

I also suspect there'd be a lot more people tripping over their feet.  Walking and picking up their feet minimally, finding the floor is enough higher one step ahead than what they're familiar with that they are caught by surprise.
Sort of what might happen if you're walking forward on a bus, and it starts up a hill.
Again, more likely to be a problem in the inner rings, where the habit of leaning way forward while walking has been described, and the surface curves more drastically.

wdg3rd on February 20, 2010, 02:26:49 pm
Oh, yeah, it's not "a range artificial gravities", it's " variation in centripetal force that are felt as different amounts of gravity".

Yeah, I know it's a comic strip.  Spinach doesn't make you stronger either except as "part of this complete breakfast" for a long time (yeah, I am known to put spinach in omelets, as well as a lot of other things like whatever else was left over from last night except for pasta [tried it once -- didn't work] but last week's chili and some cheddar, some avocado in season [which it never is in New Jersey, the things are damned expensive here unlike in Los Angeles where we had a tree in the backyard that gave like Nina Hartley] in an omelet is a breakfast special or at least a special breakfast, and that is one of the few times I don't use "special" as in "education").
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SandySandfort on February 20, 2010, 04:53:57 pm
Oh, yeah, it's not "a range artificial gravities", it's " variation in centripetal force that are felt as different amounts of gravity".

Same difference. Rotational acceleration is often called "artificial gravity."

... unlike in Los Angeles where we had a tree in the backyard that gave like Nina Hartley...

Nina has worked for me. Nice red diaper, Jewish intellectual, but doesn't give it away. You are showing your age.   ::)

SandySandfort on February 22, 2010, 08:04:25 am
I just noticed the "Hotel Mandala" appears to have 4 lobes, set 90 degrees apart.  The text says 3 lobes.

You must be mistaken. Page 375 clearly says FOUR lobes. And we have always been at war with Oceania...

"Who controls the past, controls the future." -- George Orwell.

wdg3rd on February 25, 2010, 03:26:42 am

Nina has worked for me. Nice red diaper, Jewish intellectual, but doesn't give it away. You are showing your age.   ::)

Not ashamed of it, the grey in my beard didn't get there by accident.  She and Seka are my favorite actresses.  Nina is an RN (few porn fans know that, they think of nurses as fantasy objects), as is La Esposa.  There have been nurses in my family for as long as there have been nurses in history, my generation failed to produce one, so I had to marry one.  Two of my nieces are studying the trade, a good thing since I'm not a breeder.  My first wife (hopefully my next, and I'm not planning a divorce, but she's recently widowed, I'll wait a year and a day before we (yeah, we) propose, is also a nurse, LPN, not RN, when we first met she and my cohusband were F-111 aircraft mechanics.  (Yeah, I'm showing my age there -- I was in C-5a avionics at the time).  I turn 55 in May, next January is a good time to remarry (without divorcing).  My first marriage was a polyandry, I could deal with polygyny for a while, though I'd prefer a line marriage as was the plan before my ex cohusband went sociopathic [we'd sworn brotherhood in a non-sexual way as high-school freshmen, we were both Heinlein fans, nowadays (or at least ten years back, when he tracked me down) vasectomy repaired and a bunch of kids, he's ":Born Again" without the courtesy of a Hindu, they're also born again, but they have the courtesy of dying first]).  If I meet Bill in Hell (if the xtians are right, I'm going there, and knowing him and xtian dogma so is he), I will have to hurt him.  Real bad.  ).

It's depressing sometimes.  Just a few years ago, I could brag that I'd been an atheist for as long as Jack Benny lived.  What do you brag about when you're 54?
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SandySandfort on February 25, 2010, 04:50:44 pm
She and Seka are my favorite actresses. 

Man, that is a blast from the past. Haven't thought of her in years. I'm buds with Annette Haven still. She has always been a bit weird and has just gotten more so over the years.

It's depressing sometimes.  Just a few years ago, I could brag that I'd been an atheist for as long as Jack Benny lived.  What do you brag about when you're 54?

Ahem, don't you mean 55? Anyway, you are still a baby, but you can brag about being a smarter baby than you were 25, right?

wdg3rd on February 25, 2010, 07:20:13 pm
She and Seka are my favorite actresses.

Man, that is a blast from the past. Haven't thought of her in years. I'm buds with Annette Haven still. She has always been a bit weird and has just gotten more so over the years.

The one Las Vegas Consumer Electronics Show I attended, way back in 1981, Seka and Annette were in adjacent booths, one plugging Caballero, the other pushing Swedish Erotica.  Which were the same company.  A short distance away, Marilyn Chambers was signing posters.

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It's depressing sometimes.  Just a few years ago, I could brag that I'd been an atheist for as long as Jack Benny lived.  What do you brag about when you're 54?

Ahem, don't you mean 55? Anyway, you are still a baby, but you can brag about being a smarter baby than you were 25, right?

Seka is 55, her birthday is in April.  I don't turn 55 until late May, when I have my next midlife crisis and shave off two feet of hair and a foot of beard.  (Scheduling a midlife crisis in advance avoids nasty surprises).
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.  --  Denis Diderot