Who made the artifact?

Actual alien beings
1 (5.6%)
The UW
2 (11.1%)
A practical joker
9 (50%)
Someone with a nefarious plan (not the UW)
6 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Rocketman on January 10, 2010, 09:18:46 pm
I don't know how far in advance you &cet put the story to bed, but I do know that other artists (Walt Kelly comes to mind) have been known to change a story in progress based on then current events.

Are you talking about Pogo?  ???

SandySandfort on January 10, 2010, 09:37:21 pm
I don't know how far in advance you &cet put the story to bed, but I do know that other artists (Walt Kelly comes to mind) have been known to change a story in progress based on then current events.

Man, it's hard enough just getting stuff done on time. New scientific articles and other current events do make it into what I write, but not for months.

quadibloc on January 11, 2010, 12:40:57 am
Ah. Someone else beloved of tabloid newspapers that pay attention to aliens from flying saucers. Given where the directions were found, while this is unexpected, it is not entirely surprising.

Mabuse on January 11, 2010, 01:43:49 am
And this just keeps getting better and better  8)

ObscureDragom on January 12, 2010, 06:24:33 pm
???  Wait a minute, if you had created an Elvis clone and waited for him to mature in secret and wanted to launch his new music career...  This would be a great way to give him his initial exposure.

Sean Roach on January 12, 2010, 09:12:55 pm
But what's to prevent your Elvis clone from deciding he'd rather be a starship pilot instead?

ObscureDragom on January 13, 2010, 01:45:25 am
By explaining how much of a bigger space ship he could own if he first belted out a couple platinum records.

And by explaining that he had to pay back the company for himself.

Azure Priest on January 13, 2010, 09:56:15 am
By explaining how much of a bigger space ship he could own if he first belted out a couple platinum records.

And by explaining that he had to pay back the company for himself.

A reference to "the ship that sings", beautiful story that.

Sean Roach on January 13, 2010, 10:10:48 am
At what point did the Elvis clone enter into a contract for his own gestation?

OPossumTX on January 13, 2010, 10:57:51 am
There could be an argument that the clone is the property of the organization which created it.  That doesn't mean that it could not buy itself from that entity under certain defined conditions.

ObscureDragom on January 13, 2010, 11:39:48 am
At what point did the Elvis clone enter into a contract for his own gestation?
Imagine if all children had to pay back their parents their own cost of Gestation, Room and Board, Parenting and Education.

You know move out, get your first job, start paying back 16 to 20 years of back rent then reasoning you only have to pay back half the usual amount for the parenting to your parents and the rest can be a donation to PBS.

Rocketman on January 13, 2010, 06:59:49 pm
There could be an argument that the clone is the property of the organization which created it.  That doesn't mean that it could not buy itself from that entity under certain defined conditions.
OPossumTX: L. Neil had a similar situation in one of his confederacy series stories, namely Howell the coyote.  Howell was very bright for his species when he was captured and given a cybernetic upgrade in order to help stop other coyotes killing sheep but when the ranchers association found out that it had done it's job far too well and Howell had become a sentient being they had wasted all their money because sentient beings are automatically not property but rational beings and one cannot own rational beings.  (it's also called slavery)
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ObscureDragom on January 14, 2010, 02:38:10 am
Ownership that can one can work to pay off is called Serfdom.  It's a delicate line though. 
Slavery<Serfdom<Those hard working girls that make your jeans
All part of the sliding scale of oppression

SandySandfort on January 14, 2010, 07:10:50 am
Ownership that can one can work to pay off is called Serfdom.

Actually that is more like a form of indentured servitude. Serfs were bound to the land for life, though many escaped to the cities. If memory serves, if you could stay in a city for a year and a day, you became a free man.

Scott on January 14, 2010, 10:03:01 am
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Imagine if all children had to pay back their parents their own cost of Gestation, Room and Board, Parenting and Education.

It's called, having kids of your own. The original "pay forward."

 

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