MirrorField on December 16, 2019, 05:21:43 am
I'm assuming the black hole isn't in Bubbleopolis's system, so there would be quite a bit of medium within their system, but it doesnt really matter. For an object travelling at near the speed of light the light from the object would only arrive just a bit before the object. As far as letting the object punch through Randal Monroe pretty much did the math on what would happen if you pitched a baseball at the exact speed this object is travelling at. It doesn't end well. https://what-if.xkcd.com/1/

Indeed. That note was intended for bubbleopolis (or whatever the eventual target was): You can't hide it and with murphy shield of that size you should have few minutes of warning. Bit challenging to accurately locate and intercept at those velocities, but given murphy drive and at least degree of FTL communications it should be possible. Probably.

And sabotage on that scale, of that sort of system, by compromising a single engineer unwittingly? Early warning system is something that you want to have multiple layers of redundancy and there are reasons for "two man rules" and "no lone zones". Though we may be getting sidetracked into abstruse details of security engineering...

Btw: IMHO the spy lady was a mercenary freelancer who most likely didn't know who she was working for or why. After all, you cannot betray something you do not know. One would suspect that proper free-market economy will have given people tools to ensure that she'll get properly paid. Instead of her employers tying up loose ends with "high-velocity retirement package".

lurkergao on December 16, 2019, 07:00:37 pm
I agree spy lady is probably a merc based on her internal dialogue. She probably had no idea why she was compromising this system or what the end result would be. I doubt though the black market of bubble town has worker protection from high velocity retirement. Any middleman she could setup with the client would only be loyal to the almighty dollar. Her employer can pick from a list of mercs and find one the most easily expendable. These operators are on their own negotiating with clients with vast resources and man power. The negotiation is always slanted toward the client.

DrakBibliophile on December 17, 2019, 01:16:09 pm
Well, the middleman would love to spend the money he/she gets so would be on guard against the "client" deciding "high velocity retirement" (or HVR) is better than paying the middleman.

The thing is IMO the client (especially in this situation) may not know who the middleman got for the job so his target for HVR is likely the middleman.

Yes, HVR is something to be concerned about but the persons who'd be "most concerned" about it are those closer to the client rather than those who do the dirty work.

I agree spy lady is probably a merc based on her internal dialogue. She probably had no idea why she was compromising this system or what the end result would be. I doubt though the black market of bubble town has worker protection from high velocity retirement. Any middleman she could setup with the client would only be loyal to the almighty dollar. Her employer can pick from a list of mercs and find one the most easily expendable. These operators are on their own negotiating with clients with vast resources and man power. The negotiation is always slanted toward the client.
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Skull the Troll on December 18, 2019, 03:13:46 pm
Taking out the middleman is probably counter productive in a world where brains can be backed up. There just going to come back and be very, very, angry with you. Better would be to make sure that a large portion of their compensation is in escrow for a period of time so they have a financial reason to stay quiet.

Well, the middleman would love to spend the money he/she gets so would be on guard against the "client" deciding "high velocity retirement" (or HVR) is better than paying the middleman.

The thing is IMO the client (especially in this situation) may not know who the middleman got for the job so his target for HVR is likely the middleman.

Yes, HVR is something to be concerned about but the persons who'd be "most concerned" about it are those closer to the client rather than those who do the dirty work.

I agree spy lady is probably a merc based on her internal dialogue. She probably had no idea why she was compromising this system or what the end result would be. I doubt though the black market of bubble town has worker protection from high velocity retirement. Any middleman she could setup with the client would only be loyal to the almighty dollar. Her employer can pick from a list of mercs and find one the most easily expendable. These operators are on their own negotiating with clients with vast resources and man power. The negotiation is always slanted toward the client.

JanessaVR on December 18, 2019, 03:16:32 pm
The Really Big Question (TM):

Why did they launch only one of these things at Bubbleopolis?
Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.

Sean Roach on December 18, 2019, 05:00:03 pm
The Really Big Question (TM):

Why did they launch only one of these things at Bubbleopolis?

Warning shot? "You are not safe inside your fortress. Bend your knee or die."?

Possibly it was a compromise because the more they did, the more vectors to attempt, the greater the chance of discovery?

Maybe they thought that WAS overkill?

JanessaVR on December 18, 2019, 05:49:03 pm
If it was the first one, they're damn fools.

I rather vividly remember the national mood by the afternoon of 9/11 - nobody wanted to bend any knees, but damn near everyone wanted blood.

There's an old proverb: "If you strike at a king, you must kill him."  Bubbleopolis is apparently a major power in the QV universe.  A still alive and now bloodthirsty for revenge major power.
Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.

Coyoty on December 18, 2019, 11:52:57 pm
Yes, it was a Godsmack concert.  By that time, they're very, very old rockers and often do Disaster Area covers.

DrakBibliophile on December 19, 2019, 10:04:08 am
Nod and the same holds true for the actual "gun-man".

Of course, the actuall "gun-man" may know only the middleman not who hired the middleman.

On the gripping hand, how many "middlemen" are involved.  More room for "loose lips" but may be safer for the Big Bad.

Taking out the middleman is probably counter productive in a world where brains can be backed up. There just going to come back and be very, very, angry with you. Better would be to make sure that a large portion of their compensation is in escrow for a period of time so they have a financial reason to stay quiet.

Well, the middleman would love to spend the money he/she gets so would be on guard against the "client" deciding "high velocity retirement" (or HVR) is better than paying the middleman.

The thing is IMO the client (especially in this situation) may not know who the middleman got for the job so his target for HVR is likely the middleman.

Yes, HVR is something to be concerned about but the persons who'd be "most concerned" about it are those closer to the client rather than those who do the dirty work.

I agree spy lady is probably a merc based on her internal dialogue. She probably had no idea why she was compromising this system or what the end result would be. I doubt though the black market of bubble town has worker protection from high velocity retirement. Any middleman she could setup with the client would only be loyal to the almighty dollar. Her employer can pick from a list of mercs and find one the most easily expendable. These operators are on their own negotiating with clients with vast resources and man power. The negotiation is always slanted toward the client.
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