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ansonmacdonald, I personally believe that homosexual activity is sinful but I also think "picking a fight" is if not sinful, is Not A Good Thing.

As far as I'm concerned, you are just attempting to pick a fight. 

I didn't intend to Drak and I will drop this matter right now.  I originally made a brief comment to express an opinion which was as far as I intended it to go.  Being compared to an asshole or a Nazi seemed to demand a reply of sorts but as I say, others have made their point as have I and I'm done with this thread.

For the record: I'm very straight, and have produced two sons, but also have a lot of gay, lesbian and bi friends. I don't consider them degenerates, any more than I consider those who prefer stories like _Downton Abbey_, to science fiction, degenerate. Different strokes for different folks. Some of the bi women I'd love to "lay" with. I don't care what Hollywood does, I tell the stories I have in me.

But I do appreciate feed-back from readers, even the negative remarks.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply Scott.  I understand I'm outnumbered here and also that we will never agree on this.  I am not changing my opinion and certainly not apologizing for my choice of the word "degenerate" even though I could have made my objections know with a softer tone.  I am also very straight and I have objected here before to the use of straight sex in your story line.  You've got a great arc going here and it seems a shame to me that part of it will follow the use of sex to titillate readers who may not require it.

Hollywood leads the way in this and it covers all the angles.  They manage, it seems to me, to destroy even straight sex.  An onscreen kiss is no longer the demure thing that left you at least wanting for more.  Now it must be done with loud smacking and sucking noises.  Gender roles have been under fire also with 90 pound pixie girls tossing 250 pound men around with martial arts chops.  Shoot a large male aggressor, don't engage physically.

Language has deteriorated on TV in recent years.  Brits have been able to get away with saying "shit" for decades but there were gate keepers who held that back here in America.  Evidently a Supreme Court decision a few years ago opened that flood gate and now we're treated to "shit" and all it's conjugations on the home screen.

Since Hollywood hates normal people who don't view the Bill Of Rights as something to be gotten around I've stopped supporting them.  Haven't paid to see a movie in 20 years, at least.  I don't know how many others take this position but it has occurred to me that mine is a small voice in an otherwise noise filled medium.

But here I can be heard and I suppose I laid it off on your forum for that reason; I knew you'd see it.  I am, as I've said above, a straight man and I've also raised two children while being married to the same woman 40 years this January.  I train with firearms and carry daily, another reason Hollywood hates my "type".  I have zero friends that are gay, lesbian, bi, trans, etc. that I know of.  I also do not harm anyone nor would I call for forcing pink triangles to be worn by those I consider to be...what?  I won't say it again but they won't break bread at my board.  I would harm no one who leaves me along but I also will not worship them or pretend that I am okay with this chosen lifestyle.  Do what you will but you'll certainly appreciate a different man as a friend than I can be to you, should "you" be in that category.

Again, thank you for your response.

You want everyone to respect your choices, but don't want to respect others? You don't want to hear other peoples views in a forum or media, but you share your own? You defend the bill of rights except for the 1st and 14th amendments, but get upset at someone not liking the 2nd? If you truly believe that everyone should be able to make their own choices none of whats happen in QV or TV or Movies should upset you - you just don't watch it. I don't think you want that though, you want to promote a program that classifies a group of people as bad. You're doing everything that you are accusing others of.

You want everyone to respect your choices, but don't want to respect others? You don't want to hear other peoples views in a forum or media, but you share your own? You defend the bill of rights except for the 1st and 14th amendments, but get upset at someone not liking the 2nd? If you truly believe that everyone should be able to make their own choices none of whats happen in QV or TV or Movies should upset you - you just don't watch it. I don't think you want that though, you want to promote a program that classifies a group of people as bad. You're doing everything that you are accusing others of.

I haven't said anything of the sort.  Here on the forum I've shared my opinions and taken whatever flak I had to.  Everyone gets to blast off that way.

My comments referred to what the youngsters are calling RL...Real Life.  Since when do I have to celebrate perversion and degeneracy in my personal life?  I am aware of at least two men who are now pretending to be women.  They even found a surgeon who was willing to mutilate them for money.  I would do nothing to harm these or any other like them but don't for a moment think that I am going to grovel as many do to "celebrate their choices."

Neither am I required to spend my money on things that disgust me.  All that I've said conforms to the Bill Of Rights, the only thing that does not do so is whatever outrage is percolating inside that trolling skull of yours.

Who said you had to celebrate it? Your objecting to the fact that its being presented as normal in media and this webcomic. As far as I can tell at least in the terms of this webcomic and its forums, youre the only person trying to tell other people how to think or act.

Sounds to me like "you want a fight". 

Who said you had to celebrate it? Your objecting to the fact that its being presented as normal in media and this webcomic. As far as I can tell at least in the terms of this webcomic and its forums, youre the only person trying to tell other people how to think or act.

Sounds to me like "you want a fight". 

Who said you had to celebrate it? Your objecting to the fact that its being presented as normal in media and this webcomic. As far as I can tell at least in the terms of this webcomic and its forums, youre the only person trying to tell other people how to think or act.

Unfortunately for him, I'm a pacifist. A "tough" one at that, since I refuse to go back to being afraid like, ALL THE TIME.
As some of my family who stayed/went back to the South would say, "God Bless 'em.." It's all good, I'm not offended, or intimidated. Just kinda sad.

Who said you had to celebrate it? Your objecting to the fact that its being presented as normal in media and this webcomic. As far as I can tell at least in the terms of this webcomic and its forums, youre the only person trying to tell other people how to think or act.

I haven't told anyone how to think or act.  What I've done is written something you don't like.  Scott saw it as the feedback it was intended to be, although of the negative variety.  That is enough for me.

Sounds to me like "you want a fight". 

Who said you had to celebrate it? Your objecting to the fact that its being presented as normal in media and this webcomic. As far as I can tell at least in the terms of this webcomic and its forums, youre the only person trying to tell other people how to think or act.

I don't want a fight, but when someone spreads hate and bigotry, I'll say something, just he he does when he sees a "degenerate." Both of us are espousing our views to others, I just own it.

Yep, you want a fight.

While I don't approve of the term "degenerate", I've seen too much hatred & bigotry from the "pro-gay" side but then you approve of that sort of "hatred & bigotry".

Good Bye.

Sounds to me like "you want a fight". 

Who said you had to celebrate it? Your objecting to the fact that its being presented as normal in media and this webcomic. As far as I can tell at least in the terms of this webcomic and its forums, youre the only person trying to tell other people how to think or act.

I don't want a fight, but when someone spreads hate and bigotry, I'll say something, just he he does when he sees a "degenerate." Both of us are espousing our views to others, I just own it.

Ok I'm just curious, what hate have you seen from the "pro-not telling other people what to do in bed" side or from me in particular? All I have said is that he's reading a strange comic for someone who seems to disapprove of even the fictional representation of gay people. You can say that I'm trying to have a fight, but I really don't think that I am. I'm trying to have a civil discussion. I think that "you're just trying to have a fight", and "goodbye" is a cop out for "I don't have any points to refute what youre saying but I want to look like I'm taking the moral high ground just after taking a parting shot with no sources." It's apophasis basically. 

All I have said is that he's reading a strange comic for someone who seems to disapprove of even the fictional representation of gay people.

Not that strange when you consider I've been reading this website and all of the stories on it since it began.  I've also bought the stories in book form when it's been offered.  Three were, IMO, excellent, while the rest were always entertaining.

So I got here by simply logging in every day.

I think this thread has deviated somewhat from the topic at hand.