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Quantum Vibe / Re: Homeworld, Not So Sweet Homeworld
« Last post by bjdotson on May 06, 2020, 10:54:27 am »
Well, that sounds ominous. All the signs of a classic bubble-living Hollywood-style talking head. And that's without counting those ominous hints about seditious politics.

>"...there are some lies that lodge so deep in the hopes of man that they can never be killed no matter how many are executed to make the lie true." ~Gerard Van Der Leun



>Jean-Luc: How does greed-based economics square with 'benevolence'?

>Jerome: I'm not sure I can explain that.

I love these lines. Jean-Luc drank the Flavor-aid years ago and can only see things through the rose-colored collectively produced glasses.

I agree and as an aside. thank you for getting the Jonestown reference correct. I get a little irked when people say "drink the Kool-Aid". Made my day.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: "I'm not sure I can explain that"
« Last post by Skull the Troll on May 06, 2020, 08:43:25 am »
Because they’re human, and humans have other interests besides the basic necessities of life?

Agreed. Any system can be benevolent or despotic, depending on the motivations of the humans that run it.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: "I'm not sure I can explain that"
« Last post by B-Sabre on May 06, 2020, 07:44:00 am »
Because they’re human, and humans have other interests besides the basic necessities of life?
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Homeworld, Not So Sweet Homeworld
« Last post by MirrorField on May 06, 2020, 06:49:51 am »
Well, that sounds ominous. All the signs of a classic bubble-living Hollywood-style talking head. And that's without counting those ominous hints about seditious politics.

>"...there are some lies that lodge so deep in the hopes of man that they can never be killed no matter how many are executed to make the lie true." ~Gerard Van Der Leun



>Jean-Luc: How does greed-based economics square with 'benevolence'?

>Jerome: I'm not sure I can explain that.

I love these lines. Jean-Luc drank the Flavor-aid years ago and can only see things through the rose-colored collectively produced glasses.

Be careful, Jerome. You might actually widen your perspective and start seeing the differences between theory and practice...

These "beneficias" and "greed-based economy" are two separate parts of what we call "society". Nonprofits and charities have limited and indirect contact with the actual economy, like engine has limited relation with driver's seat in a car.

ObQuestion to author: Was that "stick" in last panel meant as "tick"?
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Quantum Vibe / "I'm not sure I can explain that"
« Last post by Geezer on May 06, 2020, 06:34:10 am »
But I bet we do get an explanation. Any guesses as to it's content?
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Homeworld, Not So Sweet Homeworld
« Last post by Apollo-Soyuz on May 06, 2020, 05:54:03 am »
Well, that sounds ominous. All the signs of a classic bubble-living Hollywood-style talking head. And that's without counting those ominous hints about seditious politics.

>"...there are some lies that lodge so deep in the hopes of man that they can never be killed no matter how many are executed to make the lie true." ~Gerard Van Der Leun



>Jean-Luc: How does greed-based economics square with 'benevolence'?

>Jerome: I'm not sure I can explain that.

I love these lines. Jean-Luc drank the Flavor-aid years ago and can only see things through the rose-colored collectively produced glasses.

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Quantum Vibe / Re: official homage spotter thread*
« Last post by Apollo-Soyuz on May 06, 2020, 05:46:13 am »
page=2091

>Jerome: Mork calling Orson, come in, Orson.

Homage to the Mork and Mindy sitcom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mork_%26_Mindy




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Quantum Vibe / Re: Why are there starship bays?
« Last post by customdesigned on May 04, 2020, 09:13:44 am »
Every technology comes with a tradeoff.  I don't think we've seen the Big Downside of displacement tech yet.   Maybe it pops holes in, and eventually weakens, space-time - with some cosmic consequence.  When reading about Tesla Towers, I was relieved they didn't catch on.  They gather "free" energy by draining it from the Earth's magnetic field.  Not so "free" in the long term.

Scott has not addressed causality and displacement.  Our universe has timewise loops, but navigating them to effect time-travel is impractical, and perhaps impossible on the macro scale.  The loops are geometric features of space-time, not a violation of causality in themselves.

Example of a theoretical man-made "wormhole" time wise loop:

1) create a wormhole
  a) for person sized wormhole, take two earth mass conducting plates, and hold them near each other without touching - very practical, yes? :-)
  b) for micro wormhole suitable for transmitting information to the past, do the above on a smaller, and perhaps less expensive scale
2) separate the ends of the wormhole
  a) problem: no method of "grabbing" the ends is yet known
  b) don't allow the ends to meet, the wormhole will collapse in an explosion
  c) the explosion from collapse of a personal or bigger wormhole will have sizable energy.  Best not keep either end on the planet you live on.  Put it in orbit a good distance from Earth.
3) send one end away from Earth at near light speed for, say, 1 light year, then turn around and come back

One end of the wormhole is now 1 year older than the other.  You can transmit information from the future to the past.  There is no violation of causality because the bridge is continuous - indeed, using it to personal advantage requires keeping it absolutely secret - which it's very existence makes more difficult. 

You can also send the wormhole end to some other planet and leave it there for easy access.  E.g. a micro sized wormhole allows remote control of a robotic exploration vehicle without the time delay by transmitting signals both ways through the hole.  The mass of the wormhole end is proportional to the energy of collapse - so sending a personal sized hole to another planet would be even more expensive than creating it in the first place.
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So, there are likely natural timewise loops near super massive objects.  Just as Murphy drive used black holes to accelerate object to near light speed, it could be used to jump into one.  But the time travel requires actually moving *through* the loop, so maybe displacement can't violate causality. 
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Homeworld, Not So Sweet Homeworld
« Last post by MirrorField on May 04, 2020, 02:56:28 am »
Well, that sounds ominous. All the signs of a classic bubble-living Hollywood-style talking head. And that's without counting those ominous hints about seditious politics.

Also, while that "crack open a cold one" works nicely as a visual joke, my inner engineer and product designer just raised the flag of rebellion while swearing to hunt down, tar and feather any idiot proposing such design in real life. Even the first Napoleonic-era lead-soldered knife-opened(*) tin cans had better engineering.

(*) Can openers hadn't been invented at the time.

ObDesign: The Ubiquitous aluminium can and the engineering involved.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Homeworld, Not So Sweet Homeworld
« Last post by UncleRice on May 03, 2020, 11:00:29 am »
For some reason, the very fact Jerome had to ask that, makes him suspicious.
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