Big Head Press Forum

Online Comics => Escape From Terra => Topic started by: Plane on February 19, 2011, 12:50:21 pm

Title: Belgian government
Post by: Plane on February 19, 2011, 12:50:21 pm
Belgians celebrate 249 days without a government

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Belgians-celebrate-249-days-without-government/ss/events/ts/021711belgiumgov


Apparently government is not something that a Belgian uses every day.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on February 19, 2011, 05:06:35 pm
Groovy
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: terry_freeman on February 19, 2011, 07:38:57 pm
Belgians celebrate 249 days without a government

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Belgians-celebrate-249-days-without-government/ss/events/ts/021711belgiumgov


Apparently government is not something that a Belgian uses every day.

Cool! Americans should try this remedy. Apparently "The [Belgian] budget deficit last year was lower than forecast because there was no government to make spending plans."
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: quadibloc on February 20, 2011, 01:01:08 am
I saw the news item. Of course, it isn't really "no government" in the AnCap sense. No active legislature, but still police enforcing the laws as they were, still taxmen, and so on. But I suppose it's a start.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: sams on February 20, 2011, 01:15:13 am
I saw the news item. Of course, it isn't really "no government" in the AnCap sense. No active legislature, but still police enforcing the laws as they were, still taxmen, and so on. But I suppose it's a start.

If no bastard is writing ''administrative directive'' then it is the kind of grid lock I can live with ... just image how many kittens are dying because the Belgian politicians didn't took action  ;D

At least it is a good start
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: Plane on February 20, 2011, 01:41:20 am
So what is missing from their government is the top layer.

As a society and for the rest of their government they can apparently coast along with no real top .
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: sams on February 20, 2011, 01:54:30 am
So what is missing from their government is the top layer.

As a society and for the rest of their government they can apparently coast along with no real top .

It is a good start not to have the top layer, with all the dumb politicians willing to force your kids learn French or flemish ... or tax the carbon shit out of you, at least this layer is off.

It is an accident of History, but if they get used to it we might get a precedent of lack of government.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: GlennWatson on February 21, 2011, 05:07:52 pm
I worked at a high school once where for a year and a half we got along without a principal.  Everything was fine.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: terry_freeman on February 22, 2011, 12:04:18 am
There are reports of a high school - I forget which - that had a teachers' strike for most of a school year. The students self-organized into study groups.

The student scores on Advanced Placement tests were higher than in other years.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: KBCraig on February 22, 2011, 01:59:19 am
Let's see, Belgium has no elected oversight, yet taxation and programs and goverment --and governance-- continues. Sounds like a bureaucrat's wet dream.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on February 22, 2011, 09:54:10 am
Civil unrest in Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Libya, Wisconson, a Libertarian's WD come true.

Sad but true about the bureaucrats though.

Some people seem to need, relish and seek adult supervision, I suppose it is the pack thing Pablo mentioned in the strip. Now the question for the Belgians, whose government is running on pure momentum, is how to apply the brakes, as in cutting off the money. Dare we hope to see the same in DC?
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: ContraryGuy on February 22, 2011, 10:44:39 am
There are reports of a high school - I forget which - that had a teachers' strike for most of a school year. The students self-organized into study groups.

The student scores on Advanced Placement tests were higher than in other years.


And this, of course, means all teacher are evil and all students would be better off with no-one to answer questions or guide slower learners.  (or hold back the geniuses.)

I had a teacher in elementary school who was teaching elementary geometry, and when we got to the part of calculating the volume of a cone, he said "we are going to skip this, you will never need to know it".  And you know, I never have needed to know how to calculate to volume of a cone.

See, some teachers are knowledgeable.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: ContraryGuy on February 22, 2011, 10:49:19 am
Civil unrest in Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Libya, Wisconson, a Libertarian's WD come true.

Sad but true about the bureaucrats though.

Some people seem to need, relish and seek adult supervision, I suppose it is the pack thing Pablo mentioned in the strip. Now the question for the Belgians, whose government is running on pure momentum, is how to apply the brakes, as in cutting off the money. Dare we hope to see the same in DC?

You would find a fellow traveler in Grover Nordquist, Republican, who once famously compared choking off tax revenue with "strangling a baby in a bathtub."

The Belgians can have no top layer of government because they do nothing but make fine chocolate, great beer and get invaded. 
So, no need for a government.

However, you seem to have neglected to mention the the European Central Government is located in Belgiums capital city Brussels.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: terry_freeman on February 22, 2011, 03:24:23 pm
There are reports of a high school - I forget which - that had a teachers' strike for most of a school year. The students self-organized into study groups.

The student scores on Advanced Placement tests were higher than in other years.


And this, of course, means all teacher are evil and all students would be better off with no-one to answer questions or guide slower learners.  (or hold back the geniuses.)


Gee, I see that you majored in Jumping to Unreasonable Conclusions. Was that the Illogic 101 series?

Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on February 22, 2011, 03:50:58 pm
You would find a fellow traveler in Grover Nordquist, Republican, who once famously compared choking off tax revenue with "strangling a baby in a bathtub."

So then, I gather you disaprove of strangling babies?

I have not been a Republican in years, not since I cut way back on my drinking. I looked the guy up, unimpressed.

Frankly, I don't care a rodent's anus about Belgium one way or another. I just like the story.

Oh yeah

Cone (1/3) * pi * radius2 * height
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: GlennWatson on February 22, 2011, 04:54:13 pm
How do you know who much ice cream to buy?
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on February 22, 2011, 05:17:13 pm
I generally buy the cup shaped cones, easier on the old brain.
Or was that for CG?
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: GlennWatson on February 22, 2011, 09:34:23 pm
Whoever.  I'm still trying to figure out how pie helps when figuring the correct amount of ice cream.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on February 22, 2011, 09:50:17 pm
As I understand it the pie goes under the ice cream, the amount escapes me too, beyond lots.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: Holt on February 23, 2011, 04:14:57 am
Mostly because all the systems were in place by this point. Contrary to your beliefs this wouldn't mean that putting a load of anarchists in a new place would result in a functional society popping up. I highly doubt the majority of Belgians are anything you'd call anarchists.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: J Thomas on February 23, 2011, 08:53:11 am
How do you know who much ice cream to buy?

Buy as much ice cream as you intend to eat.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on February 23, 2011, 11:12:04 am
Logic

Since Belguim is the part of Holland that stayed under Spanish control and so Catholic, and since the Dutch are well known dairy freaks, it only stands to reason that being essentially Dutch Catholic dairy freaks, Belguim must have some seriously kick ass good ice cream.

Logic

And a stalled government stuck in a ditch, too.

Spudit Like.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: EchoMirage on February 23, 2011, 12:24:41 pm
from spudit:
Quote
A reference to the Belgian government thread since you are so physically close to Belguim,
do the Belgians make good ice cream?

Sorry, don't know belgium ice cream. But if their ice cream is just as half as good as their chocolate, then I recommend a try.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: ZeissIkon on February 23, 2011, 12:34:35 pm
I had a teacher in elementary school who was teaching elementary geometry, and when we got to the part of calculating the volume of a cone, he said "we are going to skip this, you will never need to know it".  And you know, I never have needed to know how to calculate to volume of a cone.

This is sad, only because it literally took me less than a minute to learn how to calculate the volume of a cone (this is a right, circular cone, but I couldn't swear it's more complex for a non-right circular cone): it's 1/3 the volume of a cylinder the same base and height (which is base area times height, and base area is just the old circle formula, pi*r2).  That simple.  I learned it by overhearing the eighth graders trying to learn it while I was in fifth grade (two classrooms for eight grades where I went from 2-8), and it's stuck for the past forty-plus years, despite using it every couple years or less.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: quadibloc on February 23, 2011, 04:07:28 pm
This is sad,
The way I remember it is that the volume of a pyramid is 1/3 of the height times the base. And the same rule, incidentally, applies to cones, which makes sense, as it applies to octagonal, hexagonal, and pentagonal pyramids, for example, as well as to square ones.

Still, it's just memorization, which is awkward.

After having learned calculus, though, one gains the ability to derive the formula - at least for the square pyramid.

The derivative of x to the n-th power, with respect to x, is n times x to the (n-1)-th power. A very important formula to remember, because it has lots of uses.

The antiderivative, or the integral, reverses this rule (except for 1/x, whose antiderivative is the natural logarithm of x; this happens because it would be 0/0 otherwise).

So if something falls at an acceleration of 32 feet per second squared, not only do we know the obvious fact that its velocity at time t from being let go will be t times 32 feet per second, but we also know that its position will be t squared times 16 feet. (Derivative of 16 t squared is 2 times 16 t.)

Apply that to a square pyramid whose height is the same as the sides of its base. So the derivative of its volume, as we go down from the tip, is the area of its base, h squared. As the derivative of h cubed is 3 times h squared, the integral of h squared is 1/3 h cubed.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: KBCraig on February 24, 2011, 02:34:23 am
The way I remember it is that the volume of a pyramid is 1/3 of the height times the base. And the same rule, incidentally, applies to cones, which makes sense, as it applies to octagonal, hexagonal, and pentagonal pyramids, for example, as well as to square ones.

Still, it's just memorization, which is awkward.

Not all memorization is awkward. Much of it is instinctive. And any time we remember a solution, it's because we've memorized it. Having to stop and figure out a solution every time, now that's awkward!



Quote
After having learned calculus, though, one gains the ability to derive the formula - at least for the square pyramid.

The derivative of x to the n-th power, with respect to x, is n times x to the (n-1)-th power. A very important formula to remember, because it has lots of uses.

The antiderivative, or the integral, reverses this rule (except for 1/x, whose antiderivative is the natural logarithm of x; this happens because it would be 0/0 otherwise).

So if something falls at an acceleration of 32 feet per second squared, not only do we know the obvious fact that its velocity at time t from being let go will be t times 32 feet per second, but we also know that its position will be t squared times 16 feet. (Derivative of 16 t squared is 2 times 16 t.)

Apply that to a square pyramid whose height is the same as the sides of its base. So the derivative of its volume, as we go down from the tip, is the area of its base, h squared. As the derivative of h cubed is 3 times h squared, the integral of h squared is 1/3 h cubed.

Sounds like you memorized a helluva lot more than "one third of a cylinder", there.  ;)
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on February 24, 2011, 10:18:31 am
See, that's why I buy the cylindrical cup shaped cones for my ice cream, less math.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: dolo724 on March 21, 2011, 12:14:54 pm
Belgians celebrate 249 days without a government

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Belgians-celebrate-249-days-without-government/ss/events/ts/021711belgiumgov

Apparently government is not something that a Belgian uses every day.


I think this is the best place to show yet another opinion.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1804/1

Don't know enough about history, etc, but like the talk.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: macsnafu on March 21, 2011, 01:41:16 pm
Is there enough ice cream to cover the spam?  That's the real question, I think...
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on March 21, 2011, 01:58:41 pm
I have somewhere in storage a Hagar the Horrible comic in which someone  asks what he is dunking in his beer. Angel food cake. Shudder, Wow you really ARE a barbarian.

An example to us all.
Title: Re: Belgian government
Post by: spudit on March 21, 2011, 02:01:28 pm
Good one dolo724

Thanks and welcome.