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Title: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: sehlat on April 17, 2007, 04:14:20 pm
'You gang-raped a chinese girl...'  Fine. Every time you even try to use force against another person or harm anything living, you get to re-live the rape and stomping exactly as the victims experienced it. Oh, and by the way, I've just made you very long-lived and you can't commit suicide. Welcome to hell.
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: delphidb96 on April 17, 2007, 04:58:36 pm
She picked the very BEST method, in my opinion, to deal with the crime.  Very messy and the perp doesn't get the chance to learn to enjoy the 'agony' - I'm quite sure some would.  Plus, there's absolutely NO recidivism after punishment has been carried out.  Always a plus in my book. :D

Derek
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on April 17, 2007, 08:59:47 pm
I agree with Delphid96.  L. Neil covered it in his book "Tom Paine Maru" when he said something along the lines of "You can tell how advanced a civilization is by how they deal with their criminal element.  A really primitive society will torture to death it's criminals while a civilized one will simply and humanely put them to death."
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: sehlat on April 19, 2007, 10:47:22 am
A clean quick death has to be *earned*. Those guys hadn't earned it.
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: aditantimedh on April 19, 2007, 02:12:03 pm
These guys earned being removed from society altogether.

She's not a sadist.

Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: sehlat on April 19, 2007, 03:37:18 pm
My proposal isn't sadism, simply a teaching tool: If they stop trying to hurt other people, they stop reliving the experience.  And the long life makes sure they get LOTS of practice before their next incarnation.
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on April 19, 2007, 08:11:07 pm
Sehlat:

"My proposal isn't sadism, simply a teaching tool."
   How exactly did they learn anything?  They're dead.   Remember?
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: aditantimedh on April 19, 2007, 09:08:48 pm
Inflicting endless pain is an act of sadism. 

This wasn't about teaching them a lesson. It's about removing them from civil society altogether.

Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Scott on April 21, 2007, 04:05:21 pm
I think it's a mistake to view Susan LaMuse as some sort of paragon of perfect justice. She's not a Goddess, and she certainly is not flawless; she is a person who happens to have virtually limitless powers over matter and space, and a point of view derived from her growing up in the 1980s-90s as the daughter of moderate-leftist political activists.

The way I view that scene, she killed those guys because it was an easy way to deal with them and the rape/assault incident she read in their minds particularly pissed her off.

Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: wdg3rd on April 22, 2007, 03:22:30 am
Torture is rarely a useful teaching process.  (yes, they might pass the test, what grade will you award?).  It's always better to kill quick and get it over with, otherwise it's just revenge.  To quote Lady Sally from Spider Robinson's Callahan's Lady, "Revenge doesn't fix anything and it gets your soul all sticky".  (While he's a bit of a socialist, I consider Spider my second favorite writer since Heinlein died) (if you don't know who my first favorite (post-Heinlein) is, you should pay more attention, I didn't come here just to La Muse myself).
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on April 22, 2007, 04:12:27 am
Another point is that if you have someone who has just committed a terrible crime it's far better as far as I'm concerned to kill that person than it is to hurt them badly and teach them "a lesson".  If you do then you have to look over your shoulder the rest of your life, or at least the rest of their life to make sure that they don't decide to commit revenge on you.   :(
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on April 23, 2007, 02:54:23 am
I just read the April 23 section and all I can say is that of all of the possible outcomes I had thought of from the week before that was one that I hadn't expected.  :D
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on May 07, 2007, 05:46:05 pm
Just finished reading this weeks edition of La Muse and all I can say is that Todd must be the biggest idiot that ever walked on two legs.  He's about to anger a woman that can literally do anything to him and he's not the least bit concerned?  L. Neil said it best in one of his stories "Life is an intelligence test."  I think this little idiot is just about to flunk.   ;)
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: aditantimedh on May 09, 2007, 05:46:58 am
You'd be amused how many idiots like Todd there are out there in real life, especially in the film and entertainment industry.

Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on May 10, 2007, 10:33:43 am
aditantimedh:
     Any personal incidences that you care to share with the rest of us?  I've got a few in engineering companies that I used to consult at.  ;D
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: aditantimedh on May 11, 2007, 07:08:46 am
Oh... a few stories are already going to end up in slightly altered form in LA MUSE itself.

Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Sphynx on May 11, 2007, 12:29:42 pm
With respect to Todd's "La Muse Sex Tape", I'm surprised, given Susan's ability to read minds and to affect electronic media (remember the government bug in her sister's car), that there's anything on the tape.  When we first saw Todd calling an associate about the tape, I thought he'd find out it recorded static, or maybe Perry Como.

I am assuming that Susan is aware of the tape (from Todd's mind), and has other plans/ideas for dealing with it.

I also agree, Todd is just a venial, opportunist, whose greed qutient has exceeded his native intelligence.  It'll be interesting to see how he handles the next "test" life throws him.
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on May 12, 2007, 07:45:55 pm
Maybe Susan modified the tape so that he appears as her in the "video".  Then when it's broadcast he looks like a total laughing stock.  That to me would seem to be a fair punishment for his betrayal.  When she took the time to get him out of the situation he was in I would have thought he would have been grateful for her help.
 ;D
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Scott on June 04, 2007, 01:59:14 pm
In about another three weeks, the Great Sex Tape Caper will resolve itself, in quite a humorous -- you might call it karmic --fashion. Stay tuned!

Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on June 06, 2007, 06:47:47 pm
Maybe you could explain this to me but did Susan and Libby drift apart at a fairly young age?  The reason that I ask this is that Susan seems to me to be the original wild child with little thought as to the consequences of her actions while Libby is almost exactly the opposite.  She seems very grounded and centered.  It's like Susan ran away from home at 15 and moved in with her boyfriend while Libby stayed and graduated from high school and college and played by the rules.  Any comments?  ;D
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: aditantimedh on June 07, 2007, 01:51:14 am
All will be revealed in due course.

Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Frank75 on August 12, 2007, 09:05:19 pm
You'd be amused how many idiots like Todd there are out there in real life, especially in the film and entertainment industry.

Oh, I believe that. However, in our world there are no superheroes.
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Frank75 on August 12, 2007, 09:06:14 pm
L. Neil covered it in his book "Tom Paine Maru" when he said something along the lines of "You can tell how advanced a civilization is by how they deal with their criminal element.  A really primitive society will torture to death it's criminals while a civilized one will simply and humanely put them to death."

So they don't know a way to resocialization either?
Title: Re: She's a bit uncreative for an avenging angel
Post by: Rocketman on August 13, 2007, 05:55:05 am
While I don't have a whole lot of experience dealing with the kind of scum that would do those kinds of things,  I am aware that the recidivism rate on those people is quite high.  Usually even with counciling they are beyond any reasonable chance of saving.  It's not true in every case of course, but that's the way to bet. :(