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Scott
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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2012, 10:08:04 AM »

It might also have to do with simple numbers.
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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2012, 03:22:51 PM »

It might also have to do with simple numbers.
A bit vague  Grin
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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2012, 05:56:22 PM »

I think the correlation with advancements in civic awareness will be greater than for firearms.
After all, handy firepower has been a very sudden, very recent change. A crossbow, while it did exist, and could provide good one-shot firepower was NOT in anyone's possession (significantly at least), and the decrease in violence has been more monotonous, falling also during pre-firearm times.

Also, if we look at ganglands; I think it's safe to say they're well armed, and yet violence remains. It's too easy to classify criminals as a different class of people from law-abiding citizens, so something else is at work.

I call it culture.
You mean a culture of greed? You may have something. Our societies raise phalanx of children with little to loose and a promise of incredible wealth is just a few drug deals away. Sure you may have to shoot a few people and you may end up shot to death, but when you are raised with no perceived other opportunities, and see the "Good Guys" for what they really are, what is there to loose?
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Stupid criminals put on a mask and rob people with a gun.
Smart criminals put on a suit, call themselves politicians, and rob people with writ of law.
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2012, 02:10:08 AM »

I think the correlation with advancements in civic awareness will be greater than for firearms.
After all, handy firepower has been a very sudden, very recent change. A crossbow, while it did exist, and could provide good one-shot firepower was NOT in anyone's possession (significantly at least), and the decrease in violence has been more monotonous, falling also during pre-firearm times.

Also, if we look at ganglands; I think it's safe to say they're well armed, and yet violence remains. It's too easy to classify criminals as a different class of people from law-abiding citizens, so something else is at work.

I call it culture.
You mean a culture of greed? You may have something. Our societies raise phalanx of children with little to loose and a promise of incredible wealth is just a few drug deals away. Sure you may have to shoot a few people and you may end up shot to death, but when you are raised with no perceived other opportunities, and see the "Good Guys" for what they really are, what is there to loose?

Yeah. But let's be fair - that was how it used to be everywhere. Hopelessness was pretty much the deal you got. Life was hard, and then you died. Opium dens were all the craze for a reason.
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