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Quantum Vibe / Re: they ARE only about a thousand years old!
« Last post by Skull the Troll on Today at 12:50:44 pm »
Synthetic species, synthetic culture, synthetic history, synthetic anthro oops sapientology, synthetic paleontology.  Like some folks say God or Satan did to fool us into mistaken belief that the universe wasn't created in 4004 BC.

Hm. Well, it's unclear what level of detail they are capable of.  It could be that adjusting the physical constants of the universe and increasing the rate of time in their local region (which would still be pretty damn obvious to any scientist in there) are "much easier" than the level of detail forging a false history (culture, paleontology, genetics, everything) would require of them.  I would expect that any persons that would find the cultural details available in star trek (or even all TV since 1950) impressive - would be overwhelmed by the details you'd have to 'make up' to forge in this galaxy.

Still, who knows.  Maybe they are advance in technology but crippled in imagination.  I'm willing to suspend disbelief for the sake of the story.

They dont really have to create the details of the past - they raised these beings up from lesser lifeforms. History was told to the first ones just like its told to all of us. Very few of us rely on primary source materials, we just accept what we were taught. As others have said in this thread its not hard to find modern real world people that believe the world is 6000 years old. They could just set up a system where the first ones are living in a time of  "industrial revolution" not knowing that those that came before them were unadvanced, they never actually lived at all. The gamers provide the inspiration for tech that advances the species in the direction they want and society creates itself mostly along the lines the games desire. It kind of explains some of the differences we've seen between actual Trek and this Galaxy.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Three Androids?
« Last post by Skull the Troll on Today at 12:41:06 pm »
By the way, I now believe that Theo is Hugo 1 for one reason.

Hugo 2 & Murphy 2 would know that "they" had run into trouble in this galaxy so would have taken more precautions.

While some thought Hugo 3 & Murphy 3 were too trusting, they had taken some precautions.

Theo and his Murphy were taken completely by surprise and that IMO would only happen if they were the first set of Hugo-Murphy.

Agreed. What interesting to me is why haven't any of them though about just replicating the experiment with the nukes on a sun. Pick an uninteresting star - build a few monitoring stations and drop some nukes. Its 500 year old tech, it should be cake for them I would think.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Three Androids?
« Last post by DrakBibliophile on Today at 12:22:59 pm »
By the way, I now believe that Theo is Hugo 1 for one reason.

Hugo 2 & Murphy 2 would know that "they" had run into trouble in this galaxy so would have taken more precautions.

While some thought Hugo 3 & Murphy 3 were too trusting, they had taken some precautions.

Theo and his Murphy were taken completely by surprise and that IMO would only happen if they were the first set of Hugo-Murphy.
 
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Three Androids?
« Last post by DrakBibliophile on Today at 12:01:39 pm »
I now think Scott is going to leave the fate of the missing Hugo & Murphy up-in-the-air.

The Gamer Gods need Eithne right now but what happens when she deals with Theo and sends her Hugo & Murphy home?

Eithne could be a threat to their "fun and games" so they'd want to get rid of her (I suspect that the injection while allowing them to make contact could also be used to kill Eithne).

However, if there's still another set of Hugo & Murphy in this galaxy, they'll need Eithne to handle them. :evil:

Yeah, there should be 5 androids. One destroyed, one in charge of the Cush, two with Eithne, two unaccounted for. I'm not even sure which version of Hugo ended up being Theo.

It's clear that Hugo1 became Theophilus. We are told that "The first arrived a bit more than 115 megaseconds before the others. It had a companion but that one was destroyed."
That translates to 3.64 years.  Hugo2 and Murphy2 woke up "we've lost three years."  WTF happened to Hugo2 and Murphy2 is,
at least for now, a mystery.  And judging by Eithne's face she's starting to catch on to just how big a fire hose she's gonna need to clean the fan.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Three Androids?
« Last post by sehlat on Today at 12:45:54 am »
Yeah, there should be 5 androids. One destroyed, one in charge of the Cush, two with Eithne, two unaccounted for. I'm not even sure which version of Hugo ended up being Theo.

It's clear that Hugo1 became Theophilus. We are told that "The first arrived a bit more than 115 megaseconds before the others. It had a companion but that one was destroyed."
That translates to 3.64 years.  Hugo2 and Murphy2 woke up "we've lost three years."  WTF happened to Hugo2 and Murphy2 is,
at least for now, a mystery.  And judging by Eithne's face she's starting to catch on to just how big a fire hose she's gonna need to clean the fan.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Three Androids?
« Last post by DrakBibliophile on September 25, 2017, 11:39:30 pm »
The missing two could have been destroyed but until we know for sure they could "come into play".  ;)

Um... Theo, Current Hugo, Current Murphy. By my count that makes three. The unaccounted for versions may have been destroyed in a myriad ways.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Three Androids?
« Last post by Quinlan73 on September 25, 2017, 09:06:39 pm »
 Um... Theo, Current Hugo, Current Murphy. By my count that makes three. The unaccounted for versions may have been destroyed in a myriad ways.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Framduniparlokek?!
« Last post by Archer on September 25, 2017, 04:32:09 pm »
Well now I know why nobody's buying from my bagpipe store. There's not a true scotsman in the place.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Three Androids?
« Last post by Apollo-Soyuz on September 25, 2017, 11:09:01 am »
If it's the gamer-gods mucking with the vibrometric constant,  Then they "set it back" to normal after each team of androids were "dealt with". That means mk1. and mk2. was "dealt with" -- giving credit to the theory that Theo had been largely "dealt with".

Otherwise the moment the vibrometric constant was set back to normal, Theo and the Cush would be able to escape the game bounds

Theo might have invented transwarp drive before the gamer-gods killed his creativity, but that one change gave a huge advantage to the Cush and that's ruining gameplay.

That makes the Hyper-nova (page=1444) a red herring and explains why the Murphy drive worked for a while.
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Quantum Vibe / Re: Three Androids?
« Last post by Apollo-Soyuz on September 25, 2017, 10:53:54 am »
So by context I'm going to assume "one" = one ship with two androids.  Though it could mean that one of the first batch of androids was lost, the second was killed off "in bounds" of the game, the third was killed, the fourth became Theo and there are our current 2 androids in play making three total. Or something like that.

I assume the gamer-gods were trying to deal with the androids by killing them off. Mucking with the Vibrometric constant, allowing Buttheads through the shields, etc. For the most part it seems the Androids have been extraordinarily resilient and resourceful. Maybe lucky in the context of being found by lizard people rather than Glutes after the jump drive stopped working.

I considered Theo becoming the Cush King to be a deception, that while he is now the leader, there is a part of his personality that is being fooled by the collective into making him think he's the one in charge. There might be another part of his personality that thinks he gets original ideas, and the planted ideas get carried out. I'm not so sure of that theory anymore. In any event Theo admits his Cush can't invent anything  (page=1671) so since Theo is Cush he somehow lost his creative and inventive edge.

So what happens now? Ethine gets put back into her Cush modified body, and goes and has a chat with our android team mk3, then theses two agree to leave the bounds of the game, and Ethine stays behind with her new friends? Theo is assumed to be "dealt with" and Hugh and Murphy get home with memories intact so they don't launch another knee-jerk "rescue mission"?

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