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Title: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Coyoty on June 11, 2018, 03:19:20 am
I suspect that Lorelei is responsible for the attacks on Juan and Diana and that may be why she's startled that Diana would be going to her for help.  She may be happy to "protect" Diana from S&H, so she can hold her without appearing to be the villain, and get more information and compliance from her.  In this case, S&H were hurting Diana for her own good, and Lorelei would be helping her for her own bad.  Diana may have thought of this, though, and intentionally be playing innocent to get closer to Lorelei for investigation.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on June 11, 2018, 09:34:11 am
Well, if nothing else, this will establish whether she is to be trusted.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: bjdotson on June 11, 2018, 01:33:22 pm
Breaking somebody's arm "for their own good" seems a little to much like government logic to me. I can see no scenario where that would be or should be permissible. A lethal response to that type of assault would be defensible, if possible.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: 0z79 on June 11, 2018, 04:06:17 pm
"For their own good"... you mean like how the British Empire handled native peoples?
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Skull the Troll on June 11, 2018, 06:49:22 pm
Breaking somebody's arm "for their own good" seems a little to much like government logic to me. I can see no scenario where that would be or should be permissible. A lethal response to that type of assault would be defensible, if possible.

This is why it isn't about the government. S&H isn't a government agency. There are no government agencies. No matter your system theres going to be assholes with weapons and oppression on their minds.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: JanessaVR on June 18, 2018, 03:07:47 pm
For #1809:

The rot in Bubbleopolis looks pretty deep.  I hope their efforts will lead to draining the swamp.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on June 19, 2018, 08:16:47 am
As soon as she gets some better evidence she will need to dump the whole thing into the news feeds. I wonder if that gorilla reporter from Luna is still around.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: JanessaVR on June 20, 2018, 12:17:08 am
To Scott:

There's a minor mistake in strip #1810.  In panel 3, "So I have him my report" should be "So I gave him my report."
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: bjdotson on June 20, 2018, 12:24:24 pm
Breaking somebody's arm "for their own good" seems a little to much like government logic to me. I can see no scenario where that would be or should be permissible. A lethal response to that type of assault would be defensible, if possible.

This is why it isn't about the government. S&H isn't a government agency. There are no government agencies. No matter your system theres going to be assholes with weapons and oppression on their minds.
I know it isn't government. What I said was it is too reminiscent of government logic to my liking and that considering the type of society shown I believe that lethal response is not only appropriate but even laudatory.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Sean Roach on June 20, 2018, 04:51:25 pm
To Scott:

There's a minor mistake in strip #1810.  In panel 3, "So I have him my report" should be "So I gave him my report."

Are you aware of the "Errata" thread?
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Parrhesia on June 22, 2018, 10:38:55 am
In any other comic, a portrait of FDR might pass without comment - in this one, it's just about the last straw.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Sean Roach on June 22, 2018, 02:14:48 pm
In any other comic, a portrait of FDR might pass without comment - in this one, it's just about the last straw.

Wow. I missed that. And Washington, too. If they're side-by-side on that wall, I would presume the rest of the wall, covered up by the narrative, is similarly festooned.
Run, Diana. You're in the den of wolves.

Edit. We have limousine liberals today. What do you call the well-heeled in an an-cap society, who thinks things would be just that much better with a central government?
space-yacht statists?
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on June 23, 2018, 10:21:50 am
Unless it is a museum of history for educational purposes and keeping track of where they've been, FDR's portrait is definitely a problem.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Scott on June 25, 2018, 12:10:42 pm
In any other comic, a portrait of FDR might pass without comment - in this one, it's just about the last straw.

That's not FDR, that's Brian Mulroney. And he and Washington are there for a reason which will be revealed later.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on June 26, 2018, 09:33:01 am
In any other comic, a portrait of FDR might pass without comment - in this one, it's just about the last straw.

That's not FDR, that's Brian Mulroney. And he and Washington are there for a reason which will be revealed later.
Well, a positive spin would be that both of those men seem to have tried to make things better using the tools they had at their disposal and had mixed results.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Skull the Troll on June 27, 2018, 12:15:12 pm
I imagine FDR is a bad sign in this comic for sure, but I like him just fine.  :D
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on June 27, 2018, 05:11:06 pm
Hmm, if Juan they have Juan, he should be able to tell them she isn't guilty, so this is obviously a trap. I find it hard to believe that no security corp would represent and protect her under the condition that she surrender. Especially if she has reason to believe their competitor was compromised. It sounds like she is being given FUD in with a very beta solution to her problem. Spending the rest of this investigation in a holding cell may be the safest thing for her though. It may be up to Zander to complete it.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Quinlan73 on June 28, 2018, 09:25:20 pm
Surrender? Does anyone want to place bets?
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: DrakBibliophile on June 29, 2018, 08:39:58 am
If Lorelei is an enemy, she is going about "being an enemy" in a very strange way.  ;)
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on June 29, 2018, 09:12:00 am
Doing the whole surrender in such a public way is a much better way to do this than the way it sounded the first time.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: macnut on June 29, 2018, 09:32:56 am
If Lorelei is an enemy, she is going about "being an enemy" in a very strange way.  ;)

I don't consider Lorelei to be an enemy, however she did take in someone who turned out to be a very hot potato. Naturally she wants to get rid of that hot potato as quickly and as safely as possible. The simplest way to do this would have been to let S&M agents in while Diana was sleeping and let them take her, if she had been an enemy, that is. Arranging a well-publicized surrender like this is a friendly act, and like someone else said, the safest place for Diana might be a holding cell.

I was rather surprised that Juan was found alive though. I got the distinct impression that he did not survive his kidnapping and interrogation; maybe it was because he managed to convince them he knew nothing that could hurt them?
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Coyoty on July 01, 2018, 03:26:19 am
If Lorelei is an enemy, she is going about "being an enemy" in a very strange way.  ;)

You can have a lot of access to your victim and cause a lot of damage if you convince her you can be trusted.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: DrakBibliophile on July 01, 2018, 09:04:01 pm
By helping Diane go public about the conspiracy that Lorelei is part of?

If Lorelei is an enemy, she is going about "being an enemy" in a very strange way.  ;)

You can have a lot of access to your victim and cause a lot of damage if you convince her you can be trusted.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Coyoty on July 02, 2018, 02:35:46 am
The publicity is about S&H's abuse of Diana, not the attacks S&H was investigating.  Lorelei now has control of the situation and the information, and she's keeping Diana unbalanced by the speed at which everything is going.

By helping Diane go public about the conspiracy that Lorelei is part of?

If Lorelei is an enemy, she is going about "being an enemy" in a very strange way.  ;)

You can have a lot of access to your victim and cause a lot of damage if you convince her you can be trusted.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Skull the Troll on July 02, 2018, 08:43:57 am
If Lorelei is an enemy, she is going about "being an enemy" in a very strange way.  ;)

A public "confession" from Lorelei during the broadcast would seal Diana up pretty tight. If we make it through the broadcast with out things going pear shaped then I'll believe shes a good guy.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on July 03, 2018, 09:24:07 am
I'm guessing her current look is the local equivalent of the helpless innocent girl look, as opposed to the hard boiled private eye look.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Parrhesia on July 03, 2018, 11:54:28 pm
I just want to know what it would take to get the real Diana to wear that dress.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on July 04, 2018, 11:12:19 am
Oye, that explains the objective of her host. She's using this as an opportunity to slander belt apes.

Alternatively, she could be trying to discredit Diana and her employer. If this is the case, then she may also be styled up to look like some notorious anti- beltape person. This means Diana has a very short time to butt in and set the record straight loudly and clearly. Why Lorelei would damage her own brand like this when it would be so much easier to make Diana just disappear, is a puzzle.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Apollo-Soyuz on July 08, 2018, 04:31:03 pm
> ...and three figures Dong Gyeon-Hoon, Areum, and another rather stout female dressed similarly to Areum, standing by.

Must be from page=1814 panel 4

>Diana: All right. But when I go in, I want to bring back-up with me.

>Lorelei: By all means, call in whoever you think can help you.

>Lorelei: But they need to be ready in two hours.



Also, Otto keeps reminding me of Bob's big boy. If he was wearing checkers I'd bump the homage thread.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Skull the Troll on July 08, 2018, 05:43:10 pm
Yup, Looking like Lorelei is a bad guy.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Parrhesia on July 09, 2018, 12:10:24 am
Yeah, it'd really be something for Lorelei to be a goodguy after this in light of... um... every single page of the first three volumes.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Sean Roach on July 09, 2018, 09:09:06 am
Good guy, bad guy, tangent. Whether or not we can accept Lorelei's rather bold ...I don't know what to call it, since it's not really race, per se, I'm not convinced her issues are related to the current issue.
Allow me to lay out a scenario for you.
Diana showed up, and her story was an agent of S&H, which she thinks might be corrupt, who happens to be a beltape, handled her roughly, causing her serious injury without sufficient provocation.
Lorelei heard a beltape, who happens to be an agent of S&H, which is obviously corrupt, (they hire beltapes for security), handled her roughly, causing her serious injury without sufficient provocation.

So what you got was a rich bigot willing to believe the worst of a certain group, and giving the person who looks like them the benefit of the doubt. Not an angel; Not a devil; but a very flawed person.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: lurkergao on July 10, 2018, 11:22:11 am
I hope niece wook is short for wookie cause it looks like jackbooted thugs are about to come down on them.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: UncleRice on July 11, 2018, 11:20:34 pm
So the question here is: are they going to play nice under the camera, or have they been off the reservation so long they think they are now invincible?
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Scott on July 12, 2018, 07:06:50 am
I just want to know what it would take to get the real Diana to wear that dress.

I can't speak for the real Diana, of course, but I'll bet a $1,000 donation to The Lighthouse Project would do the trick. She might even go as low as $500. Diana likes to play dress-up. Have you seen her "Cock-Fairy" get-up?

Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Sean Roach on July 12, 2018, 09:59:23 am
Okay, apparently you red-shirted someone real. I'd love to see a picture of the real Diana, in any outfit.
Google was NOT my friend, but wanted to be my special friend. Several of the first ten hits on the keywords "Diana Lighthouse Project "cock-fairy"" were decidedly not-work-safe, and that was just reading the descriptions.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: JanessaVR on July 13, 2018, 12:33:54 am
Re:  1820

Indeed, far too easy.  She should expect a snatch-and-grab later that night, for a more thorough interrogation session.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Parrhesia on July 13, 2018, 01:42:09 am
Wow - that went fantastic for her.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Quinlan73 on July 13, 2018, 09:17:33 am
Yes. Waaay too easy.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Apollo-Soyuz on July 13, 2018, 08:07:12 pm
I'd love to see a picture of the real Diana, in any outfit.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVRQqUgDRBevsDGOeE1DL3A/videos
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Sean Roach on July 14, 2018, 03:01:37 pm
I'd love to see a picture of the real Diana, in any outfit.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVRQqUgDRBevsDGOeE1DL3A/videos

Thank you.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Coyoty on July 16, 2018, 03:14:32 am
Diana should have her head examined if she lets Lorelei examine her head.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: customdesigned on July 16, 2018, 11:37:36 am
Diana should have her head examined if she lets Lorelei examine her head.
Worthy of Chesterton himself.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: DrakBibliophile on July 19, 2018, 11:02:04 am
She going let Monty "examine her head".  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)

Diana should have her head examined if she lets Lorelei examine her head.
Worthy of Chesterton himself.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Skull the Troll on July 20, 2018, 10:28:30 am
Good guy, bad guy, tangent. Whether or not we can accept Lorelei's rather bold ...I don't know what to call it, since it's not really race, per se, I'm not convinced her issues are related to the current issue.
Allow me to lay out a scenario for you.
Diana showed up, and her story was an agent of S&H, which she thinks might be corrupt, who happens to be a beltape, handled her roughly, causing her serious injury without sufficient provocation.
Lorelei heard a beltape, who happens to be an agent of S&H, which is obviously corrupt, (they hire beltapes for security), handled her roughly, causing her serious injury without sufficient provocation.

So what you got was a rich bigot willing to believe the worst of a certain group, and giving the person who looks like them the benefit of the doubt. Not an angel; Not a devil; but a very flawed person.

Agreed. I think that if she wanted S&H to get Diana, the interview was the perfect opportunity. I think shes just a bit of a racist, possibly one that is doing it unknowingly. Racism can be like that.
Title: Re: Keep your enemies closer.
Post by: Coyoty on July 26, 2018, 04:22:00 am
Dong is apparently putting Lorelei on notice.  He knows her, and she better know him and beware.